Yanking lead verses just trolling makes a difference. I have had great success yanking lead up and down in a pendilum motion hardly ever skunked. I usualy get hit on the upstroke or at least thats when I feel the hit. Stout tackle is required to set hook. Flutter spoons like suttons the best. In line barrell swivel a must. 12 feet of florocarbon leader. Two man job one fishing one rowing