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Post Irene CFs on Croton Watershed Streams
« on: August 28, 2011, 04:26:41 pm »
I took a look at the CFs on the major Croton streams to see how they were flowing after Tropical Storm Irene. Since the DEP controls water levels, I was thinking they were releasing a lot of water from the reservoirs into the outlets. That combined with the runoff, I expected it to be high...but not this high. Pretty dramatic differences.


- East Branch (Croton River just below dam): median CF = 63, right now, CF =2460 , gauge height, 7' 3" and falling
- Croton Falls Outlet (Croton River West Branch): median CF = 70, right now, CF = 430, gauge height, 6' 6" and falling
- Amawalk Outlet (Muscoot River): median CF = 19, right now, CF = 241, gauge height, 10' 6" and rising
- Titicus Outlet: median CF = 12, right now, CF = 2,180, gauge height, 8' 7" and peaking
- West Branch Outlet: median CF = 32, right now, 846, gauge height, 4'1" and rising
- Cross River (in Ward Pound Ridge): median CF = 4, right now, 825, gauge height, 6' 2" and falling

The EB is 39X normal flow.  TO is 181x normal flow, but Cross River takes the prize at 206X normal flow!! :o 

Seeing how Cross River has the only native brook trout population in the area, that's quite worrying. On the other hand, the buildup of silt on all the rivers should be lower after the flooding, right?

For the heck of it--looked at the Esopus Creek up in the Catskills: median CF = 261, right now, CF =59,900, gauge height, 16' 9" but earlier was 21'. The Esopus is 229X its normal flow...I'd say that's got to be a flood.

...I can't begin to imagine the damage. Hope everyone is staying safe.



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Re: Post Irene CFs on Croton Watershed Streams
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2011, 04:59:34 pm »
yea maybe the floods will help the streams in some ways, by making new dams and removing some, i know they are going to look a lot different
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Re: Post Irene CFs on Croton Watershed Streams
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2011, 09:22:50 pm »
Flow is still at least twice of normal flow and temps are surprisingly high at the Amawalk and Boyd outlets.

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Re: Post Irene CFs on Croton Watershed Streams
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2011, 11:03:22 pm »
Will get out on the streams and have a look on Thursday and report back...
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2011, 10:17:54 am »
I was stuck inside all weekend while in Destin Fl over Labor Day weekend due to Tropical Storm Lee. I get back to NY and the same damn storm is ruining the week. AND its raised water levels at all the streams. Getting cabin fever, I drove up to peak at the Amawalk, East Branch, Titicus Outlet and CFO and they are all still VERY HIGH and fast.
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Re: Post Irene CFs on Croton Watershed Streams
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2011, 12:03:58 pm »
bummers.  :(

really wanted to get a few more weekends in before end of season.

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Re: Post Irene CFs on Croton Watershed Streams
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2011, 01:34:32 am »
Fingers cross they are in better shape for next week. As the temps drop we will move into spawning season and the feeders should get bigger trout moving up into the rivers from the reservoirs. From Muscoot up into the East and CFO and from the Croton Falls Reservoir into the West Branch river or from the Muscoot into the Titicus Outlet....if we're lucky.

I did notice water spilling over the EB reservoir...WARM water....which can, of course, kill off trout. Fingers crossed.
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Re: Post Irene CFs on Croton Watershed Streams
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2011, 06:06:42 pm »
just fish the east branch in nov, i caught tons then, and a pretty big brown there on december 4th
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Re: Post Irene CFs on Croton Watershed Streams
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2011, 10:33:53 pm »
Well, I had some luck on Titicus on August 31. The flow was still high but fishable. All usual stuff, browns and bows 10-12" with only exception that I lost a nice one in the S-pool. Hooked him by chance..was busy with a line tangle :)holding rod tip high, flies (hare`s ear soft hackle and some other wet) buzzin on surface 15 ft downstream. He took a fly and hooked himself. Not catious at all. Unfortunately the line was still tangled around the rod, so I couldn`t use the rod to play him. I held him for a while trying to do smth. like 5-10 seconds, enough to see a  brown at least 18" long.Then he rushed to the opposite bank across the strong current, and broke off..4x tippet (!). The big ones have definitely started coming in.
On September 10 I had no luck there. Tried streamers and nymphs with some extra weight. Maybe should have gone deeper with a sink-tip. Also found this guy on the bank. Carp from the reservoir, about 40 inches and round like a log. I wonder how he got there.

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Re: Post Irene CFs on Croton Watershed Streams
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2011, 04:03:18 pm »
AVK are you referring to the Titicus inlet or outlet?? Just curious..
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Re: Post Irene CFs on Croton Watershed Streams
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2011, 05:23:59 pm »
That's not a common carp which are all over the reservoirs.
That's a Grass carp (or White Amur). I didn't know there were
any of those in the reservoirs.
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Re: Post Irene CFs on Croton Watershed Streams
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2011, 05:42:02 pm »
he probably meant outlet, and id love to have one of those on my rod :D
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Re: Post Irene CFs on Croton Watershed Streams
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2011, 07:38:39 pm »
he probably meant outlet, and id love to have one of those on my rod :D
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Re: Post Irene CFs on Croton Watershed Streams
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2011, 07:43:13 pm »
That is definitely a grass carp.  Non-native.  Oh brother...  :-\

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Re: Post Irene CFs on Croton Watershed Streams
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2011, 08:10:45 pm »
AVK are you referring to the Titicus inlet or outlet?? Just curious..
the outlet, right. Below the dam..