Fighting big fish

[AVK]

I did some research and found out that the bugs we saw were actually Quill Gordons mayfly duns. I have good imitations, like CDC Mayfly Emerger but I didn`t use them for some reason. I didn`t even think about using emergers under such conditions. But the guys which provide fishing reports on Esopus suggest that it would be a good time to fish them as droppers.

[jimmy1]

It's been my experience on the E there is very little surface activity until the march browns and grey foxes start to emerge around the second and third week in May when the water gets into the 50's consistently. This all depends on their numbers. Numbers is what trout key in on up there. If your getting sparse hatch's the dry fishing is usually poor. You can always pound a fish up but it's a lot of work.

A lot of info on the E is dated and is not relevant to conditions on the creek at present. The creek ran muddy below Phoenicia for most of last year and is still off color. Work is beginning on the Stoney clove this summer to try to remedy the problem. We'll see what happens.

 The town of Phoenicia is also starting dredging on the Stoney at it's mouth up past the bridge in May to try to ease flood problems. This will surely screw things up fishing below the town.   

[jimmy1]

I see the water temp has gone up to 58 degree's this evening at Coldbrook.

[AVK]

It's been my experience on the E there is very little surface activity until the march browns and grey foxes start to emerge around the second and third week in May when the water gets into the 50's consistently. This all depends on their numbers. Numbers is what trout key in on up there. If your getting sparse hatch's the dry fishing is usually poor. You can always pound a fish up but it's a lot of work.

A lot of info on the E is dated and is not relevant to conditions on the creek at present. The creek ran muddy below Phoenicia for most of last year and is still off color. Work is beginning on the Stoney clove this summer to try to remedy the problem. We'll see what happens.

 The town of Phoenicia is also starting dredging on the Stoney at it's mouth up past the bridge in May to try to ease flood problems. This will surely screw things up fishing below the town.   

I see what you mean. I came across a study on stream management about the E last week. The study was dated 1997. There was a lot of discussion on recreational uses of the stream, including fishing. The muddiness of the water is described there as a negative factor, mostly for aesthetic reasons. They recognize the need to do something about this but call for a further study to avoid adverse effects on the habitat. I`m also afraid the creek may deteriorate as a result of human activities.

[jimmy1]

Avk...they've been passing the buck on this for years. The response is always the same. "needs further study" The Ashokan is chocolate milk and the people of kingston are threatening to sue the Dep and the Dec. Now they're finally beginning to listen.

[AVK]

OK..now I understand. Let's see what happens.