Fluoro-braid

[Cny]

So what should I use as backing for it?

This is for your baitcaster right, you won't need any backing unless you don't have enough flouro to fill up the spool.

[lionpshark]

So what should I use as backing for it?

This is for your baitcaster right, you won't need any backing unless you don't have enough flouro to fill up the spool.

For Both Spinning and baitcasting

[Montrose]

lion, I'm going to take a stab at this and explain according to my experience...

I think what the others are saying is no backing necessary for any monofilament line (flouro or traditional nylon and other single strands).  Wind on directly baitcast or spinning. 

Braid has a habit of slipping on the spool when tied directly and hence a backing is generally used for "grip" on the spool and also b/c the diameter of braid is so small that large amounts are needed to fill a spool. 

This is not only costly (since you're basically winding extra hundreds of yards on), it's virtually impossible to wind it on under enough tension to keep it from "digging in" on itself once on the spool causing tangles and eventually birds nesting.

For fishing applications I would say, trout (casting boat or shore and trolling) I'm going w/ flouro due to it being less visible, more abrasion resistence and less stretch than mono, and the fact that it sinks and gets lower in the water column.  I'd also use a longer rod with a softer tip.

For bass (and I'll qualify this by saying I don't target Bass a whole lot) it would depend on how I'm fishing them...jigging, flipping, carolina rigs in weed beds,  I'd use braid so I can feel everything going on, get away w/ heavier line at a thinner diameter, and cut through vegetation if necessary. Stiffer rod for these techniques.  Crankbaits, spinner baits, vertical drop shot, etc. I'd use the flouro again for less visibilty and a bit of stretch, coupled w/ a med rod with some backbone, but softer tip. 

Like I said, just my $.02, I'm sure others have personal info for you too.

[lionpshark]

lion, I'm going to take a stab at this and explain according to my experience...

I think what the others are saying is no backing necessary for any monofilament line (flouro or traditional nylon and other single strands).  Wind on directly baitcast or spinning. 

Braid has a habit of slipping on the spool when tied directly and hence a backing is generally used for "grip" on the spool and also b/c the diameter of braid is so small that large amounts are needed to fill a spool. 

This is not only costly (since you're basically winding extra hundreds of yards on), it's virtually impossible to wind it on under enough tension to keep it from "digging in" on itself once on the spool causing tangles and eventually birds nesting.

For fishing applications I would say, trout (casting boat or shore and trolling) I'm going w/ flouro due to it being less visible, more abrasion resistence and less stretch than mono, and the fact that it sinks and gets lower in the water column.  I'd also use a longer rod with a softer tip.

For bass (and I'll qualify this by saying I don't target Bass a whole lot) it would depend on how I'm fishing them...jigging, flipping, carolina rigs in weed beds,  I'd use braid so I can feel everything going on, get away w/ heavier line at a thinner diameter, and cut through vegetation if necessary. Stiffer rod for these techniques.  Crankbaits, spinner baits, vertical drop shot, etc. I'd use the flouro again for less visibilty and a bit of stretch, coupled w/ a med rod with some backbone, but softer tip. 

Like I said, just my $.02, I'm sure others have personal info for you too.

Thanks Montrose I was under the impression that fluoro was only used as a leader and I was trying to figure out why I just couldnt wined the whole spool ? But I understand a little better now that you can if you want.
So if I was using Braid, I should use a Fluoro backing with a Fluoro Leader??
 

[Big AB]

Hi, Lion if useing braid use mono backing it's cheaper, with a fluoro leader. I'm not saying fluoro won't work on spinning reels just had problems with berkley vanish because of the stiffness of that line. I think KenH said he uses P-line floroclear, a fluorocarbon coated line ask him and other members whats a good fluoro for spinning reels. If i was fishing top water lures i would use mono line because it floats, i use silver thread AN-40 line because it casts great.

[Montrose]

lion,

What Big AB said about the backing is my feeling as well.

Any flouro you use for main line, just make sure it's a limp, castable line.  When Flouro first got popular it was very stiff and had mucho memory as AB noted.  Flouro has gotten much better.

[lionpshark]

Thanks Guy's I will ask Ken as usual he is probably in the midst of creating his own fishing line (he is so on point with this stuff)

[Biz-R-OWorld]

Thanks Guy's I will ask Ken as usual he is probably in the midst of creating his own fishing line (he is so on point with this stuff)

Ken told me about P-Line Copolymer. I use it now on my entire reel, instead of mono with a flouro leader.

[lionpshark]

Thanks Guy's I will ask Ken as usual he is probably in the midst of creating his own fishing line (he is so on point with this stuff)

Ken told me about P-Line Copolymer. I use it now on my entire reel, instead of mono with a flouro leader.

What size leader??

[dodgeguy]

vanish has to be the worst fluro ever made.

[lionpshark]

vanish has to be the worst fluro ever made.

I ended up buying P-:Line CX Premium in 10 lb test its a co-polymer. Im going to try it tomorrow